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January 16, 2009

Is Islam a Violent Faith? Violence, Hatred and Discrimination in the Koran

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If you say that Islam is a violent faith, you are accused of being anti-Islam and you are propagating “Islamophobia.”  

There are more than one billion Muslims around the world, and I’m one of them. We are told that the Koran is the “word of God.” When you read the Koran, however – which over 90% of all Muslims have never read, according to a survey by Bielefeld University in Germany, and if they ever do, either they do not understand its archaic language or they do not ponder on what it says – you find out that it is full of passages that incite to hatred, killing, and discriminate against women.  
 
Below are some quotations from the Koran. We begin with what the “holy book” of Muslims says about people of other religions.
 
According to the Koran and many Muslims, Christians and Jews have left the true path of their religion. Therefore, they are infidels (unbelievers) like Buddhists and Hindus, for example. In other words, according to the Koran, only Muslims, i.e. 19% of the world population, are true believers. The rest are “unbelievers” and “infidels.”
 
Literally, the Koran says the following about the Jews, Christians, and other “unbelievers:”
 
“O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” (Sura 5, verse 51).
 
“And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah DESTROY them; how they are turned away!” (Sura 9, verse 30).
 
“And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.” (Sura 2, verse 120).
 
“And KILL them (the unbelievers) wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.” (Sura 2, verse 191).
 
“Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.” (Sura 3, verse 28).
 
“And guard yourselves against the fire which has been prepared for the unbelievers.” (Sura 3, verse 131)
 
“And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will cause you distress, surely the unbelievers are your open ENEMY.” (Sura 4, verse 101).
 
“O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).” (Sura 9, verse 123).
 
“Surely We have prepared for the unbelievers chains and shackles and a burning fire.” (Sura 76, verse 4).
 
“O you who believe! if you obey a party from among those who have been given the Book (The Jews and Christians), they will turn you back as unbelievers after you have believed.” (Sura 3, verse 100).
 
“And their taking usury (interests on money) though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement.” (Sura 4. verse 161).
 
“Surely Allah has cursed the unbelievers (Jews, Christians and followers of other faiths) and has prepared for them a burning fire.” (Sura 33, verse 64).
 
“And whoever does not believe in Allah and His Apostle, then surely We have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers.” (Sura 48, verse 13).
 
Does Allah discriminate? The Koran says:
 
“You are the best of the nations raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah; and if the followers of the Book had believed it would have been better for them; of them (some) are believers and most of them are transgressors.” (Sura 3, verse 110).
 
Therefore, what does the Koran say about those who turn their back to Islam and commit apostasy?
 
“They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them (the unbelievers) friends until they flee (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and KILL them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.” (Sura 4, verse 89).
 
Now, what does the Koran say about women? Here are some quotations:
 
“Men are superior to women because Allah has made so. Therefore good women are obedient, and (as to) those (women) on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.” (Sura 4, verse 34).
 
“And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them, four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.” (Sura 4, verse 15).
 
According to the Koran, a woman’s testimony is worth half of that of a man.
 
“O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time then call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other.” (Sura 2, verse 282).
 
As far as sex is concerned, women are sex objects, according to the Koran. They must be ready for intercourse any time the husband wishes so.
 
“Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.” (Sura 2, verse 223).
 
During menstruation, however, men should keep away from women; they are filthy. The Koran says:
 
“It (menstruation) is a discomfort; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much (to Him), and He loves those who purify themselves.” (Sura 2, verse 222).
 
Women, according to the Koran, are, in general, unclean creature. After a Muslim has washed and prepared himself for prayer, he should not touch a woman. Therefore, “pious” Muslims never shake hands with women.
 
“O you who believe! do not go near prayer until you have washed yourselves; and if you have touched women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth, then wipe your faces and your hands; surely Allah is Pardoning, Forgiving.” (Sura 4, verse 43).
 
In case of inheritance, a woman inherits half of the portion a man inherits:
 
“They ask you for a decision of the law. Say: Allah gives you a decision concerning the person who has neither parents nor offspring; if a man dies (and) he has no son and he has a sister, she shall have half of what he leaves, and he shall be her heir she has no son; but if there be two (sisters), they shall have two-thirds of what he leaves; and if there are brethren, men and women, then the male shall have the like of the portion of two females; Allah makes clear to you, lest you err; and Allah knows all things.” (Sura 4, verse 176).
 
And what kind of punishment does a thief get, according to the Koran, regardless how much they steal?
 
“And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.” (Sura 5, verse 38).
 
Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that uses the Koran as its day-to-day law for all kinds of disputes and crimes. It is the Shari’a (Islamic law). For Islamists and conservative Muslims, Shari’a is the constitution and law that must prevail everywhere. They argue, what is better than the law of Allah which He, via the Engle Gabriel revealed to the Prophet Mohammed 1400 years ago?
 
King Abdullah, the absolute monarch of Saudi Arabia, said on a televised speech August 27, 2008, “We do not need democracy, we do not need political parties, we do not need Western human rights, we do not need their freedom of speech. What we need is the Koran. It regulates our life perfectly. It is the best legislation in the history of mankind, it is the word of Allah. There is nothing better than Allah’s law.” 
 
The “Hadeeth,” a collection of statements and comments which Prophet Mohammed allegedly made during his lifetime, is also full of atrocities. Here is a sample:
 
“A woman came to the Prophet and admitted that she had committed adultery and thereafter became pregnant. The Prophet summoned her husband and all people of Median (in Saudi Arabia). He said, ‘This woman committed adultery. Therefore, after she delivers her innocent baby, all of you are going to stone her to death. This is Allah’s verdict.’ After she delivered her baby she was stoned to death in the center of the town.” (Narrated by Muslim, (a close contemporary follower of Mohammed), cited by Khoury, The Koran, p. 550).
 
Stoning women and flogging men for adultery are widely practiced in Saudi Arabia and Iran.  
 
Hester on the scaffold in puritan Massachusetts, America of the 17th century, in the Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne, must have felt happy that she was not born among the “believers” in the Arabian Peninsula.
 
The Koran is filled with contradictions. While in sura 2, verse 256, it says “There is no compulsion in religion,” it urges Muslims to kill those Muslims who convert to other religions.
 
Both the Koran and the Hadeeth were collected after the death of Prophet Mohammed in 632. The second Caliph, Othman ordered collecting the Koran and the Hadeeth which had been written no where. They were memorized by Mohammed’s followers. Then Mohammed and his followers were illiterate. He disseminated Islam by the word of mouth. A committee was formed in Mecca and followers of the new faith queued up to deliver what they could remember from the Koran and Hadeeth. This campaign lasted for over 70 years.
 
That the vast majority of Muslims have not read or digested the Koran has two major implications. First, if rational, modern-thinking Muslims read the Koran thoroughly, they would desert Islam. They would argue that God cannot incite to hatred and violence. The Koran cannot be the “word of God.” Second, if simple-minded Muslims read the Koran and digested it, they would stick to the above “commandments” and we would have more radical and extremist Muslims around the world.
 
Certainly the Torah, the Bible, and other holy books have their own atrocious passages, especially those discriminatory ones against women, though with one difference: Muslim fundamentalists adhere to the above cited passages – in belief they are commanded directly by Allah – and implement them to the letter. Think of those suicide bombers in the Middle East and elsewhere and of the violent demonstrations against the “Mohammed cartoon” in some Muslim cities. But it is also true that the majority of Muslims simply ignore these  dreadful passages like many Jews and Christians ignore their own.
 
After he received and read this piece, Henrik Clausen from Europe News asked me if I was not afraid of being declared apostate. I said, “No.” I’m fighting for a human and modern Islam. Besides, the truth must be told at all costs. I also told him, it is not my personal opinion that the Koran incites to hatred, violence, and discrimination, etc., as we have seen above – it is our “holy” book that is preaching all this. The cited passages prove that beyond any shred of doubt. I’m just citing what the Koran commands.
 
Further, the above quotations are intended to help critics of Islam present tangible evidence for their arguments. It is not enough to say, “I think, I believe, etc.” It is also not enough to say “I’m exerting my right of freedom of speech.” 
 
There is no room for theological interpretations unless you handle the Koran in its own historical perspective. The religious establishment rejects any interpretation anyway. The slightest attempt to do so is rejected and its authors are persecuted as heretics. Think of the Egyptian theologian Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd, who is now living in hiding in the Netherlands. Besides, for conservative Muslims and fundamentalists, the Koran, as it is, is valid for all times and for everywhere. It is the “word of God.” He is not fallible and moody like we humans are.   
 
Reformers of Islam, and I consider myself one of them, argue that the Koran and the Hadeeth should be looked at in a historical perspective. Muslims 1,400 years ago were fighting Christians and Jews. Therefore, they hated them. The Muslims wanted to prevail at all costs, therefore these passages in the Koran. Women were discriminated against because this was natural in the Arab culture at the time, and is to some extent today. Apropos, the situation in Medieval Europe was not better.
 
In addition, it is one of two things: Either the Koran was concocted by the Muslim leader, Mohammed, or at least partly, or it was made up by his zealous followers after his death. Remember that hundreds or thousands of Muslims at the time contributed to compiling this work. They were promised Paradise for their contributions like suicide bombers are nowadays promised it plus 60 virgin girls.
 
*Note: The verse numbers may vary from one Koran translation to another.
 

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex-Muslim, is a professor of Sociology and an Arab-Muslim culture specialist. He has taught at Kuwait University, King Saud University, and Michigan State University. He also writes for the Jerusalem Post.

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We can't prove that God (Allah) exists nor can we prove the opposite.
About abstract entities there can only be a limited discussion.
However when we look at what God(s) are supposed to do to what happens down(?) here the only conclusion should be:"God did not create man, but man created God". (We didn't kill him !) It is superstition of the highest order and dogmatic interpretations create high levels of intolerance, hatred and violence. The Islam is super dogmatic; hence the answer is YES.
However over the ages religion has had a disciplinary effect on the multitudes and thus has had a function

posted by: Adrianus Burggraaf
Monday, February 1, 2010 at 06:44 AM


There are those who KNOW God exists. They have FAITH.
FAITH is not dependent on religion, learning, wealth or anything of earthly value.
It is dependent upon a relationship with God.
A relationship with God, like any relationship, is based on LOVE, TRUST and HONESTY ans RESPECT.
You say God(s) must continuously "do" things to prove their existence.
Do you apply the same rule to your wife, sister, mother ? They are all children of God - just like you!
Furthermore, are you asked to prove your existence on a daily basis ? Or do people simply accept that you do exist.
Perhaps YOU cannot prove God exists but that doesn't mean He doesn't.


posted by: Ryon Rei
Friday, October 22, 2010 at 04:21 AM


This verses is always quoted out of context, they never post 9:6 or from 9:1 to 9:6. If we read from start it states that there was a treaty, which the Pagans of Arab broke. Thus Allah gave them 4 months as 9:2 states in order to amend the treaty. Verse 9:4 states that the punishment prescribed in 9:5 is ONLY to those who broke the treaty and NOT to those who abided by the treaty. Therefore the context of 9:5 is of war with the pagan Arabs who broke the treaty yet refused to amend it in 4 months.


those arabs had kileld 4 inncent muslims after a treaty of peace-wich muhamamd always prefered-was in set.not only that eh gave them 4 months to repent.And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:6

quran does not only say that you release those who seek protection but it goes even further and states to protect them! In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don't just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?

isntead of more misquatation read ALLL of Quran 2:190-195)The verse clearly states to fight those who fight you, yet do not transgress limits. In so sense therefore does it promote killing of innocent but allows self-defence. It further goes on to state "And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice" and "if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression".


How should ye not fight for the cause of Allah and (for the cause) of the feeble among men and of the women and the children who are crying: Our Lord! Bring us forth from out this town of which the people are oppressors! Oh, give us from thy presence some protecting friend! Oh, give us from Thy presence some defender!PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 4:74-76 next time quote all of it..........


concerning Quran 5:33 The verses before and after 5:33 are not usually quoted, as 5:32 prohibits murder and 5:34 encourages forgiveness.the end of it says:''Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. ''
also awliya means master,patron or protector  and even leader ''sadaqa''means freind or khalil means freind !seeصديق(, رفيق, زميل, نصير, الصاحبي عضو من جماعة المهتزين, الرفيق,
V صادق, آزر sadaqi,raqib,sahabi,al-rafiq.t he word wali singula rof awliyah has 500 menaings BTW.the ayah says dont take kufaar as Masters not Freinds.


say: O disbelievers! (qul ya ayyahu al kafirun)I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion(lakum deenakum walaya deen). (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 109:1-6)

لاَ إِكْرَاه ََ فِي الدِّينِ قَدْ تَبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الغَيِّ فَمَنْ يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَى لاَ انفِصَامَ لَهَا وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمThere is no ENFORCEMENT in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error.)la ikraha fi deen,qad kaana tabbayanu rushdo min al-ghay) And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 2:256 i.e surat al-baqarah ayah 256

Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 60:8)


To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;- (They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will). (YUSUF ALI Translation, Quran 22:39-40)
Concerning Apostacy,even in the West you Kill apostates from the State called''Traitors'',what is the Diference?islam is a NAtion just as any country on this Earth.

posted by: Ali
Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 06:25 PM



Alms are for...those in Bondage.."[9:60] But it is righteousness...to spend of your substance out of love for Him...for the ransom of slaves.."[2:177] And whoever kills a believer by mistake, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave.."[4:92] "He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation...give a slave his freedom.."[5:89] And if any of your slaves ask you for a deed in writing (for emancipation) give them such a deed; If ye knew any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you..."[24:33]




So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either SET THEM FREE as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates..."[47:4] ahha so eitherway we may not execute our prisoners

"It is not meet for a mortal that Allah should give him the Book and the wisdom and 'Nabuwah' (prophethood), then he should say to men: Be my slaves rather than Allah's; but rather (he would say): Be sustenance providers (Rabaniyoon) because of your teaching the Book and your studying (it yourselves)."[3:79]

read these ayaat Qur'an: Surah 90 Al-Balad (The City Attempt the Ascent, Free a Slave Qur'an 24:27-34 Surah An-Nur (Light) Marry: Slaves and Maid Servants; Emancipation Qur'an 2:177 Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)Free Slaves Qur'an 2:221 Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)Prefer Marriage to a Believing SlaveQur'an 5:89 Surah Al Ma'idah (The Table Spread)Expiation of Breaking Sworn Oath is freeing your slave!Qur'an 4:92 Surah An-Nisa (Women)Set Free a Believing SlaveQur'an 58:3-4 Surah Al-Mujadilah (She That Disputeth)Free a Slave


(Though killing is something you feel aversion to) disorder (rooted in rebellion against God and recognizing no laws) is worse than killing (2:191); and disorder (coming from rebellion to God and recognizing no laws) is even more grave and more sinful than killing (2:217)if you read thre quran Warfare is an awesome evil" (2:217), but sometimes it is necessary to fight in order to bring the kind of persecution suffered by the Muslims to an end [2:217] or to preserve decent values [22:40]. But Muslims may never initiate hostilities, and aggression is forbidden by God [2:190] While the fighting continues, Muslims must dedicate themselves wholly to the war in order to bring things back to normal as quickly as possible, but the second the enemy sues for peace, hostilities must cease. [2:192]

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)""And when you men have divorced women, ...then either retain them in kindness if you reconcile, or part with them in kindness. Do not retain them to harm them so that you transgress limits. He who does this has wronged himself. (The Noble Quran 2:231)"Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, 'The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 135)

"Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; WHO RESTRAIN ANGER, and pardon (all) men; for Allah loves those who do good. (The Noble Quran, 3:134)" {Fight in the way of Allah against ---those who fight against you---, ---but begin not hostilities---.Lo! Allah loves not, aggressors.}* (Al-Baqarah 2:190) But if they cease [attacking you], Allah is oft-forgiving, most merciful." 2:192 IF they do not withdraw from you and they do not give you guarantees of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them: in their case we have provided you with a clear argument against them." 4:91



The Prophet said,"Paradise lies at the feet of your mothers."Hadith - Bukhari 1:675, Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Abi Qatada"My father said, "The Prophet said, 'When I stand for prayer, I intend to prolong it but on hearing the cries of a child, I cut it short, as I dislike to trouble the child's mother.' " Hadith - Bukhari 1:3:591, Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'baThe Prophet said, "Allah has forbidden for you, (1) to be undutiful to your mothers*, (2) to bury your daughters alive, (3) to not to pay the rights of the others (e.g. charity, etc.) and (4) to beg of men (begging). And Allah has hated for you (1) vain, useless talk, or that you talk too much about others, (2) to ask too many questions, (in disputed religious matters) and (3) to waste the wealth (by extravagance).

posted by: Ali
Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 06:29 PM


Hadith - Bukhari 1:832, Narrated Salim bin 'Abdullah ,also in 7:165My father said, "The Prophet said, 'If the wife of any one of you asks permission (to go to the mosque) do not forbid her."also women do not get half inheritence in silam but more then men,because a women ahs right to her husbands wealth(not other way around)and may take his money woithout his permisison,she may keep her dowry and its only her right,she has no taxes or obligations to herself or her family financially.calculating she has 4x more money then men in inheritence.

the witnessing of women is only 2 times because the Women needs emotional Support and the 2nd witness is only there to Help her Memory.

Women leaders?????"We narrate to you the most accurate history through the revelation of this Quran. Before this, you were totally unaware." 12:3 "In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence......" 12:111 27:22-44 mentions queen of sheba wich became abeleiver when meeting solomon women in islamhad the right to vote,own property and inheritence something only granted to your women in the 1930


Geert Wilders Movie and common verses used out of context as these have been widely Exposed Already-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE0FU-OwkA

''How Geert Wilders twisted the verses of Qur'an to provoke against Muslims''

Scientific ''Errors''in quran Refuted www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm -

also visit www.Islamic-Awareness.org for More Orientalistic Arguments and Rebuttals.

You know even after Burning Quran Day -180 people converted to muslim-Al-Hamdulillah You Plot and You Plan but The victory is the the Beleivers.ALWAYS.

posted by: Ali
Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 06:36 PM


RAND muslims Masha''Allah we all know the Definition of Moderate muslim in the Rogue REgimes is a Muslim who does not DDefend his Right to Existance and the Applicance of Islam over the laws of Manmade!

You Perceive yoruself to Be Great,Know That Allah is Greater!

You PErceive yourself to Be Strong with your Wars against women and Children
Know allah is The Best of War DEclarers!

to all those Who Sold Their Soul,its never too late,REPENT TO ALLAH(AZA WA JAL)you think muslism r Stupid to go into markets ad blow people uypo?Take Your MOSSAD sophisticatwd Bombs and blame them on Chabad Lubavich,Because they are MOSSAD(Visit Erichufschmidt.net)

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh let me see if ''Freedom of Speech''will apply here.

posted by: Ali
Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 06:42 PM


"Allah has forbidden for you,(2) to bury your daughters alive"

Wow -- So glad to hear about that. How very merciful indeed. Not.

posted by: Twitch
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 at 04:06 AM