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posted by: hd wood
Friday, August 6, 2010 at 11:15 AM
State-by-state winner-take-all laws to award electoral college votes were eventually enacted by 48 states AFTER the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, .
The Founding Fathers only said in the U.S. Constitution about presidential elections (only after debating among 60 ballots for choosing a method): "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . ." The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as "plenary" and "exclusive."
Neither of the two most important features of the current system of electing the President (namely, universal suffrage, and the 48 state-by-state winner-take-all rule) are in the U.S. Constitution. Neither was the choice of the Founders when they went back to their states to organize the nation's first presidential election.
In 1789, in the nation's first election, the people had no vote for President in most states, Only men who owned a substantial amount of property could vote.
In 1789 only three states used the state-by-state winner-take-all rule to award electoral votes.
There is no valid argument that the winner-take-all rule is entitled to any special deference based on history or the historical meaning of the words in the U.S. Constitution. The current 48 state-by-state winner-take-all rule (i.e., awarding all of a state's electoral votes to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in a particular state) is not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, the debates of the Constitutional Convention, or the Federalist Papers. The actions taken by the Founding Fathers make it clear that they never gave their imprimatur to the winner-take-all rule.
The constitutional wording does not encourage, discourage, require, or prohibit the use of any particular method for awarding the state's electoral votes.
As a result of changes in state laws enacted since 1789, the people have the right to vote for presidential electors in 100% of the states, there are no property requirements for voting in any state, and the state-by-state winner-take-all rule is used by 48 of the 50 states.
posted by: kohler
Friday, August 6, 2010 at 12:09 AM
In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided). The recent Washington Post, Kaiser Family Foundation, and Harvard University poll shows 72% support for direct nationwide election of the President. Support for a national popular vote is strong in virtually every state, partisan, and demographic group surveyed in recent polls in closely divided battleground states: Colorado-- 68%, Iowa --75%, Michigan-- 73%, Missouri-- 70%, New Hampshire-- 69%, Nevada-- 72%, New Mexico-- 76%, North Carolina-- 74%, Ohio-- 70%, Pennsylvania -- 78%, Virginia -- 74%, and Wisconsin -- 71%; in smaller states (3 to 5 electoral votes): Alaska -- 70%, DC -- 76%, Delaware --75%, Maine -- 77%, Nebraska -- 74%, New Hampshire --69%, Nevada -- 72%, New Mexico -- 76%, Rhode Island -- 74%, and Vermont -- 75%; in Southern and border states: Arkansas --80%, Kentucky -- 80%, Mississippi --77%, Missouri -- 70%, North Carolina -- 74%, and Virginia -- 74%; and in other states polled: California -- 70%, Connecticut -- 74% , Massachusetts -- 73%, Minnesota -- 75%, New York -- 79%, Washington -- 77%, and West Virginia- 81%.
The National Popular Vote bill has passed 30 state legislative chambers, in 20 small, medium-small, medium, and large states, including one house in Arkansas (6), Connecticut (7), Delaware (3), Maine (4), Michigan (17), Nevada (5), New Mexico (5), New York (31), North Carolina (15), and Oregon (7), and both houses in California (55), Colorado (9), Hawaii (4), Illinois (21), New Jersey (15), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (12), Rhode Island (4), Vermont (3), and Washington (11). The bill has been enacted by Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Washington. These six states possess 73 electoral votes -- 27% of the 270 necessary to bring the law into effect.
See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
posted by: kohler
Friday, August 6, 2010 at 12:11 AM
Saul Anuzis, former Chairman of the Michigan Republican Party for five years and a candidate for chairman of the Republican National Committee, supports the National Popular Vote plan as the fairest way to make sure every vote matters, and also as a way to help Conservative Republican candidates. This is not a partisan issue and the NPV plan would not help either party over the other. http://www.thatssaulfolks.com/2010/04/01/national-popular-vote-why-i-support-it/
By state (electoral college votes), by political affiliation, support for a national popular vote in recent polls has been:
Alaska (3)- 78% among Democrats, 66% among Republicans, 70% among Nonpartisan voters, 82% among Alaska Independent Party voters, and 69% among others.
Arkansas (6)- 88% Democrats, 71% Republicans, and 79% independents.
California (55)– 76% Democrats, 61% Republicans, and 74% independents
Colorado (9)- 79% Democrats, 56% Republicans, and 70% independents.
Connecticut (7)- 80% Democrats, 67% Republicans, and 71% others
Delaware (3)- 79% Democrats, 69% Republicans, and 76% independents
District of Columbia (3)- 80% Democrats, 48% Republicans, and 74% of independents
Idaho(4) - 84% Democrats, 75% Republicans, and 75% others
Florida (27)- 88% Democrats, 68% Republicans, and 76% others
Iowa (7)- 82% Democrats, 63% Republicans, and 77% others
Kentucky (8)- 88% Democrats, 71% Republicans, and 70% independents
Maine (4) - 85% Democrats, 70% Republicans, and 73% others
Massachusetts (12)- 86% Democrats, 54% Republicans, and 68% others
Michigan (17)- 78% Democrats, 68% Republicans, and 73% independents
Minnesota (10)- 84% Democrats, 69% Republicans, and 68% others
Mississippi (6)- 79% Democrats, 75% Republicans, and 75% Others
Nebraska (5)- 79% Democrats, 70% Republicans, and 75% Others
Nevada (5)- 80% Democrats, 66% Republicans, and 68% Others
New Hampshire (4)- 80% Democrats, 57% Republicans, and 69% independents
New Mexico (5)- 84% Democrats, 64% Republicans, and 68% independents
New York (31) - 86% Democrats, 66% Republicans, 78% Independence Party members, 50% Conservative Party members, 100% Working Families Party members, and 7% Others
North Carolina (15)- 75% liberal Democrats, 78% moderate Democrats, 76% conservative Democrats, 89% liberal Republicans, 62% moderate Republicans , 70% conservative Republicans, and 80% independents
Ohio (20)- 81% Democrats, 65% Republicans, and 61% Others
Oklahoma (7)- 84% Democrats, 75% Republicans, and 75% others
Oregon (7)- 82% Democrats, 70% Republicans, and 72% independents
Pennsylvania (21)- 87% Democrats, 68% Republicans, and 76% independents
Rhode Island (4)- 86% liberal Democrats, 85% moderate Democrats, 60% conservative Democrats, 71% liberal Republicans, 63% moderate Republicans, 35% conservative Republicans, and 78% independents,
South Dakota (3)- 84% Democrats, 67% Republicans, and 75% others
Utah (5)- 82% Democrats, 66% Republicans, and 75% others
Vermont (3)- 86% Democrats; 61% Republicans, and 74% Others
Virginia (13)- 79% liberal Democrats, 86% moderate Democrats, 79% conservative Democrats, 76% liberal Republicans, 63% moderate Republicans, and 54% conservative Republicans, and 79% Others
Washington (11)- 88% Democrats, 65% Republicans, and 73% others
West Virginia (5)- 87% Democrats, 75% Republicans, and 73% others
Wisconsin (10)- 81% Democrats, 63% Republicans, and 67% independents
http://nationalpopularvote.com/pages/polls.php
posted by: kohler
Friday, August 6, 2010 at 12:11 AM
We, The People, should agree to the loss of our beloved fraternal republic's Electoral College only after (ostensibly) "our" trusted servants, beginning with the senate, agree to the employment of the same method for their own election.
Too bad Delaware and Nevada, say, don't have enough people to elect any senators at all. But folks from those states and those others similarly inconsequential can travel to California and New York and talk to some of those states dozen or so senators.
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Monday, August 9, 2010 at 10:54 AM
kohler......just fyi ONE post that is almost as long as the article your commenting on usually doesn't get read. Multiple? Almost never....at least by me!!!
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